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103 Peernovation and Building High-Performing Teams: an Interview with Leo Bottary Part 2 of a Two-Part Interview

In this episode, Christina Martini and Leo Bottary discuss:

  • The ladder of inference. 
  • Being open to other people’s ideas and opinions in any group or team.
  • The power of me, the power of we, and the relationship between the two. 
  • Seeing teammates as fellow human beings and creating a sense of belonging. 


Key Takeaways:

  • You can’t be a team unless you bridge the gap from me to we. 
  • We are capable of doing so much more when we work together.
  • In any team, you matter because nobody but you can bring what you bring to the table. 
  • We are not just fellow employees, or teammates. But rather, we are fellow human beings. 


“When we look at assessments, not only for ourselves, but when we start sharing our results with other people and start looking at theirs, we can start appreciating people’s differences as real gifts. They are gifts to the team, that they see the world differently, that they have different talents, that they have different ways of contributing to the team. Because we need one another.” —  Leo Bottary


Connect with Leo Bottary:










What Anyone Can Do:

The Power of Peers:


Connect with Christina Martini:

Twitter: @TinaMartini10


LinkedIn: Christina Martini




Show notes by Podcastologist: Chelsea Taylor-Sturkie


Audio production by Turnkey Podcast Productions. You’re the expert. Your podcast will prove it. 

About the author, Christina Martini

For nearly 25 years, Christina (Tina) Martini has been an intellectual property attorney practicing in BigLaw. Tina is a partner at the law firm McDermott Will & Emery and focuses her practice on domestic and international trademark and copyright law, as well as domain name, Internet, social media, advertising and unfair competition law.

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