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110 Dark Cockpit – What Aviation Can Teach Us About Business and Leadership- An Interview with Octavian Pantis and Captain Emil Dobrovolschi, Part 1 of a Two-Part Interview

In this episode, Christina Martini, Octavian Pantis, and Captain Emil Dobrovolschi discuss:

  • How Emil and Octavian’s backgrounds prepared them for and translate into a career focused on writing about and consulting on leadership.
  • The bedrock of communication. 
  • Utilizing technology properly for the best outcome. 
  • Moving from copilot to captain. 


Key Takeaways:

  • In times of change, people are looking for ideas and inspiration. 
  • As a professional, try to be prepared all the time, for every flight, not just for the exam. 
  • Just because we have the technology to do so, we should not try to be in 2, 3, or even 4 places at once. 
  • If you want your flight to be good, you need your crew to be with you – the same thing in business. If you want your product or service to be good, you need your team to be with you. 


“If you want to be a communicator, you need to be present in that conversation, whether it’s on the phone or live and in person, whether you’re on the sending side or on the receiving side.” — Captain Emil Dobrovolschi


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Connect with Captain Emil Dobrovolschi:




Connect with Christina Martini:

Twitter: @TinaMartini10


LinkedIn: Christina Martini




Show notes by Podcastologist: Chelsea Taylor-Sturkie


Audio production by Turnkey Podcast Productions. You’re the expert. Your podcast will prove it. 

About the author, Christina Martini

For nearly 25 years, Christina (Tina) Martini has been an intellectual property attorney practicing in BigLaw. Tina is a partner at the law firm McDermott Will & Emery and focuses her practice on domestic and international trademark and copyright law, as well as domain name, Internet, social media, advertising and unfair competition law.

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