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111 Dark Cockpit – What Aviation Can Teach Us About Business and Leadership- An Interview with Octavian Pantis and Captain Emil Dobrovolschi, Part 2 of a Two-Part Interview

In this episode, Christina Martini, Octavian Pantis, and Captain Emil Dobrovolschi discuss:

  • Managing risk and dealing with uncertainty. 
  • What we can learn from aviation when things don’t go as planned. 
  • Learning from industry specific websites, not just social media.
  • Wrestling with ethical issues.


Key Takeaways:

  • Don’t postpone things, they only gather and the weight gets too heavy and overwhelming. 
  • When something goes wrong, it is never the fault of just one thing. There are always multiple factors. 
  • Do the right thing, at the right moment. Don’t do everything at the last moment, even if you can usually accomplish it.
  • The right thing is always the right thing to do, even when it is difficult. 


“If you can do it today, do it today. Don’t leave it until the last minute.” — Octavian Pantis

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Connect with Christina Martini:

Twitter: @TinaMartini10


LinkedIn: Christina Martini




Show notes by Podcastologist: Chelsea Taylor-Sturkie


Audio production by Turnkey Podcast Productions. You’re the expert. Your podcast will prove it. 

About the author, Christina Martini

For nearly 25 years, Christina (Tina) Martini has been an intellectual property attorney practicing in BigLaw. Tina is a partner at the law firm McDermott Will & Emery and focuses her practice on domestic and international trademark and copyright law, as well as domain name, Internet, social media, advertising and unfair competition law.

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